San Francisco Opera's sixth general director talks to the B.A.R.
By by Stephanie von Buchau [Bay Area Reporter, 25 May 2006]

I couldn't believe my ears. David Gockley, the new general director of the San Francisco Opera, who looks like a cross between a choir boy and an investment banker, kept using this word that I had to ask him to repeat. Finally, he looked at me quizzically — he knew I was representing the B.A.R. — and asked, "Don't you know what fisting is?"